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On Track, Off Course with Racing Welfare

Welcome to On Track, Off Course, the brand new podcast from Racing Welfare in which we discuss all aspects of wellbeing, including everything from mental health and physical health to careers and money issues.  We have an outstanding line up of racing personalities who will be talking to us about a range of issues that we rarely hear them discuss.  We will also be bringing you stories from inside the industry as well as top tips, advice and guidance from experts.


Group 1-winning jockey Hayley Turner joins us on the final episode in the first series of On Track, Off Course and Furlong Factor winner, Lara Telfer, provides a festive treat as she sings us out with a beautiful rendition of a Christmas classic. Lauren and Tina shine a light on loneliness which has never been more prevalent than during a national pandemic and Hayley opens up about times when she has felt lonely as a jockey. Regional community executive, Adam Ferguson, speaks about the initiatives Racing Welfare have introduced to combat loneliness and isolation and Welfare Officer Sarah Monkman gives her top tips for coping with loneliness and remembering loved ones at Christmas.

On Track, Off Course · Christmas Special – Hayley Turner on Loneliness and special Christmas Treat…

“I was delighted to join Lauren and Tina on the Christmas Special of ‘On Track, Off Course’. We have all been affected by loneliness at times. If anyone who works in racing is feeling lonely, especially this Christmas, please reach out to Racing Welfare who are there all year round on the end of the phone to help. That support can really help to change the lives of those struggling.Hayley Turner. 


In episode five Lauren and Tina talk to Racing TV presenter, Rishi Persad about the emotional impact of the backlash he faced after an interview he did on diversity in the racing industry. Rishi also discusses how talking to a life coach has helped him to deal with this backlash. We also hear from the Chair of the Sports Diversity in Racing Steering Group, Susannah Gill and from Elizabeth Oni-Iyioli from Inclusive Boards who are doing important work in helping organisations to improve diversity and inclusion at board level.

On Track, Off Course · Rishi Persad – Total Elimination of Discrimination has got to be the aim.

“I’ve learnt from him in conversations about emotions and suppression and what it can do to you.  As a consequence, after the fallout from the interview, I was able to deal with it.  I felt hurt and shame. I felt embarrassed, angry, afraid and upset.Rishi Persad. 


Focussing on the specific pressures faced by trainers and their reluctance to speak out about their mental health Lauren and Tina talk to Classic-winning trainer and future President of the NTF, Ralph Beckett and National Hunt handler Jo Davis.

Sports psychologist Michael Caulfield also joins Lauren and Tina and provides some fantastic advice for trainers or anyone who wants to look after their own wellbeing.

On Track, Off Course · Trainer Special with Ralph Beckett

“Racing Welfare does a fantastic job and is there for anyone who needs support. A more open dialogue on mental health among trainers can only be a positive step forward.” Jo Davis.


ITV racing presenter Francesca Cumani joins Lauren and Tina to discuss the pressures of life in the public eye and the realities of being a woman in racing. Francesca talks about combining her work on television with being a mother and the guilt that can come with trying to balance the two, as well as talking about the pressures of being a woman in a male dominated industry. 

On Track, Off Course · Francesca Cumani on the Media, Motherhood & McCoy

“The podcast is a great initiative from Racing Welfare to get people in racing talking about subjects we sometimes find difficult to discuss, I’m sure it will help many people.  I had a great time talking to Lauren and Tina and I hope you enjoy our conversation.  I would encourage anyone in the industry who feels that they could benefit from support to contact Racing Welfare, they are always on hand to help.’ Francesca Cumani.


During a frank and emotional conversation with Lauren and Tina, Classic winning former jockey George Baker talks about the impact of his career ending fall on the ice at St Moritz.  He discusses rebuilding his life after such a traumatic head injury, having to learn to walk again and how he coped with intrusive and unwelcome thoughts. 

On Track, Off Course · George Baker – Coming Back from the Brink

“Racing Welfare is a fantastic charity and I was really happy to support them with this project which I’m sure will help many people. It was emotional and it’s not always easy to look back but I really enjoyed speaking to Lauren and Tina. Physical health support is so important for our wellbeing and is available to everyone in the industry. I hope this interview will encourage people to come forward for the help they need.” George Baker.


In this first episode, we talk to racing broadcaster of the year Lydia Hislop about the recent death of her mother, Margaret, and the impact this has had on both her personal and professional life. We cannot thank Lydia enough for being so incredibly open and honest on a topic that is often so hard to discuss and we hope you find our conversations helpful.  

On Track, Off Course · Ep 1 – Bereavement with racing broadcaster of the year, Lydia Hislop.

We’re all increasingly conscious of the tangible impact that our mental health has on our lives and on those around us. Yet we still struggle to talk openly about those very issues that affect our health and happiness. In this, racing is no different from any other walk of life. Racing Welfare’s new podcast is a positive attempt to address this damaging reticence. Each week, Lauren and Tina encourage us to talk frankly about the human problems that we all grapple with by getting guests to share their personal stories and providing expert advice.

“Grief, with its isolating and debilitating consequences, was the subject I discussed in the opening episode of On Track, Off Course following the death of my mother earlier this year. However, it’s a feeling we all experience at some point in our lives and this conversation is perhaps more urgent than ever in the year of the Covid-19 pandemic.

“I urge you to tune in weekly for this timely and courageous initiative. You never know when what’s said will be of help to you or to someone whom you love.” Racing Broadcaster of the Year, Lydia Hislop.

We have a fantastic line-up of guests over the next few weeks including  Francesca Cumani, Ralph Beckett and Rishi Persad, so if you enjoyed episode one make sure you hit subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts and if you have any comments or suggestions on topics you would like to hear discussed you can email us at

On Track, Off Course · Ep 1 – Bereavement with racing broadcaster of the year, Lydia Hislop.